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- From: ejszul@obscurity.pd.mcs.net (Eric Szulczewski)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: Amiga promotion in USA.
- Date: Sun, 31 Dec 95 23:42:01 CST
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- In a message dated 12-28-95 06-44 Chris Hall writes:
-
- CH> : Again, though, Chris, we get to the issue of "What are these potential
- CH> : buyers running at work?". They're going to look for a dual purpose
- CH> : machine, and since their workplace is, on all odds, running Windoze,
- CH> : they're going to look for something to run Windoze at home. You have
- CH> : to underestimate the intelligence of the people out there in this case.
-
- CH> Actually, you are overestimating them. Most people that buy computers do
- CH> so on a whim. Sure using work is one excuse they use for buying them,
- CH> it's not the primary one. The main excuse for getting a computer is for
- CH> their kids to learn on. Which is why AT needs to get Amigas into the
- CH> schools. Most of the time, no matter what the excuse is, computers end up
- CH> gathering dust or just being used to play games. Most people that run out
- CH> and buy computers don't know anything about them, they just buy something
- CH> that's flashy.
-
- Unfortunately, their lack of knowledge also moves against the Amiga.
- The public is so brainwashed courtesy of Microsoft that when a
- first-time buyer thinks computer, he/she thinks "Windoze". This was
- one of the cruxes of my argument with Gary Peake a couple months ago on
- why the Amiga needs to be marketed.
-
- As for getting it into schools, I think that everyone agrees that it
- should be a high priority for AT.
-
- CH> : Not if they're willing to do it, which, so far, they haven't been.
-
- CH> That's the real problem. If AT isn't willing to mass market the Amiga,
- CH> then developers will always see it as a niche market and not develop for
- CH> it because there is very little money to be made.
-
- Total agreement, Chris. But there's people here who have the blinders
- on and think that the Amiga doesn't need to be mass-marketed.
-
- CH> : Chris, Wal-Mart's penetration isn't that large across the US. You may
- CH> : not know this, being from Arkansas, Wal-Mart's home state, but there
- CH> : are certain places that Wal-Mart simply won't go. Those places are
- CH> : anywhere with right-to-unionize laws. For instance, Wal-Mart will not
- CH> : enter the City of Chicago due to those types of laws. They have a
- CH> : number of stores in suburban Chicago, but won't take advantage of the
- CH> : city itself due to the fact that they can't throw out union organizers.
-
- CH> They may not be in big northern cities like Chicago but they are in many
- CH> smaller cities in the south, places that just can't support speciality
- CH> Amiga stores.
-
- That's why I said "across the US", Chris. And to be quite frank,
- apparently businesses don't really think that Chicago, the third
- largest metropolitan area in the US, can't support more than two Amiga
- dealers for a population of 8 million.
-
- (My stuff re: Wal-Mart's illegal activities deleted)
-
- CH> Doesn't every big company try stuff like that?
-
- No. Most businesses, once busted, try to actually follow the law.
- Wal-Mart thinks they're above the law or a law unto themselves.
-
- CH> I never buy meat in there anyway. I never like the looks of it.
-
- Good move. Trust me.
-
- CH> Coke, Dr. Pepper, and Pepsi are sold there, I suppose you stopped
- CH> drinking them because of it.
-
- I drink RC, actually. And Dr. Pepper is awful.
-
- CH> IBM, Apple, and many other companies sell
- CH> their computers in there. If you dumped your Amiga, what would you go to?
-
- A brand that isn't sold in Wal-Mart, of which there are many. How
- about a Gateway?
-
- CH> Many of the major brands of home electronics are sold there, are you
- CH> going to get rid of your home electronics?
-
- Actually, my VCRs are Sears house brands. See, Chris, it's easy to
- boycott if you try.
-
- CH> You may have a problem with
- CH> them but the fact is that they have stores in places that don't have much
- CH> else in the way of mass market stores.
-
- And they've successfully driven small businessmen out of business in
- those markets. I'm just telling people who may not know about Wal-Mart's
- attitude toward their own workers and toward the government.
-
- CH> Besides, what if others say that they'll dump their Amigas if their
- CH> sold in Sears, K-Mart, JC Penneys, Wards, etc? What if AT listens to
- CH> them? The Amiga won't be sold anywhere except in nitch stores that are
- CH> only in big cities.
-
- Chris, it's spelled "niche". I corrected it above.
-
- As for not being able to find them except in big cities, well, it
- doesn't impact me personally, so I can't answer that.
-
- So, tell me, Chris, why are you fighting in FAVOR of Wal-Mart? What
- are your reasons?
-
- Eric Szulczewski
- ejszul@obscurity.pd.mcs.net
- Member, Team AMIGA
- Boycott Wal-Mart!
-
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